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February 10th 1967 11 22 Erie County

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Sheriff's Department Sandusky Ohio with

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Constable Gary Butler who earlier this

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morning cited a UFO over the NASA

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installation outside of town

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yes this is Rick hillberg of Cleveland

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and Earl Neff of Cleveland interviewing

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from nycap our Constable Butler could

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you uh just briefly tell us run through

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the sighting and tell us what you saw on

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the approximate times and any comments

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you might have or elaborations well this

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officer what on the patrol an earlier

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part of Friday morning was going down

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one of our side roads uh shank road

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which it runs parallel with the nesa the

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local uh NASA establishment

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I was going on a East from a east to

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west Direction and making my I turn onto

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the main road when I observe a bluish a

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bright colored a disc object in a

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Southwestern direction of the county I

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observe this object for approximately

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five minutes before relaying the message

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to the Sheriff's Department to make sure

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that when I did see uh was uh

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a true thing

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and I called when I relayed the message

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to the Sheriff's Department they State

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Patrol responded also

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the deputy was on Route 250 approaching

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the bypass what he called to this

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officer I observed the object in a

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stationary position approximately a mile

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after everything if approximately six

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seven maybe eight minutes uh this object

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began to decline towards the ground and

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it disappeared behind a group of trees

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at this time I radioed to the other

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officers who immediately responded to

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the area and I had myself uh went to the

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area to which I saw the object

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disappeared to and after almost an hour

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and a half of observation we could not

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locate anything

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you mentioned during the previous

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interview when you were filling out our

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report form that you noticed some

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interference in your radio

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communications approximately what time

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did this happen what was the nature of

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the interference stay time when I I'm

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uncertain about I would estimate summer

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around four o'clock there was some

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static I had to repeat my uh

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transmission uh two or three times

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because the deputy as the station could

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not understand uh also there was two

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officers I believe from the Bellevue

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area who saw a light a bright a light

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object in the sky which they observed

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for several minutes and they said it

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disappeared I don't know if this was any

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connection at all but it might have been

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a jet or something to this in fact a

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constable Butler I'd like to ask you did

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you at the distance you were away from

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this detect any sound whatever from the

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object now that's negative there was no

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sound whatsoever I did shut off my the

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motor to my vehicle I had the ignition

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on so I could hear my radio I heard

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nothing I shown this my Spotlight on the

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vicinity of where the uh the this shape

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object was but the beams at the

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spotlight did not reach the area so the

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object itself

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I'd also like to ask you Constable if

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you've had any previous interest in this

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subject or have you read any articles uh

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or books on this particular subject in

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the past in other words have you had any

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interest in along those lines

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and just a little bit of local

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newspapers and this and I have observed

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on the tele on the television and radio

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but far as being interested in it I

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haven't as of yet until this point I've

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been uh fascinated with it you might say

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or even interested in it

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unlike everybody else I would say that

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has heard this or read the first people

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of observation that I too thought that

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they were nuts in some respects but as

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you've seen what I saw last night my

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attitude may change

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Constable Butler could you give us a

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brief description of the weather

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conditions in the vicinity at the time

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of the report

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if I remember correctly I believe it was

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cloudy it was the weather was cold there

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was a slight uh a breeze or wind blowing

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out of the Southwest uh approximately 10

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maybe 15 miles an hour the atomic

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reactor nesa was in operation but this

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and this reactor was in the eastern part

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of the uh Connie or the establishment of

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NASA

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councilman Butler do you know that any

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of the people at Nasa have any knowledge

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of this object uh

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passing anywhere near the place we

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wouldn't mind it had been or not

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well I spotted about 342 there was a uh

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a guard of nesa who went by the area

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about four o'clock five after four he

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said but this had already uh disappeared

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before that time but as far as anybody

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else seeing it I am I am the only one

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evidently that so I had access to seeing

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this um this object uh you were

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referring I resumed to Plum Brook right

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that's that's true

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uh was there a moon or were there stars

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that night

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I believe the earlier part of the

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evening there was a uh some stars out

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and there was a moon but at this

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particular time I don't believe that

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there was any

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did you see any other cars passing you

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at the time on the road where you were

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negative there was no there was nobody

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on the road of this was uh pretty early

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in the morning and uh there was nobody

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on the road traffic was very light if

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any at all

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did you notice any physical effects

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afterward any yellow effects any burning

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of the eyes or uh burning of any part of

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an exposed section of skin or headache

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or anything of this nature after looking

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at this object

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now there was no uh physical uh uh

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reaction towards this except after

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looking at the object there were kind of

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same effects as you might see it uh on

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the camera flash bulb is uh how it goes

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off in front of your eyes

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I'd like very much to thank you for your

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fine cooperation uh Council of Butler

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and I know Mr hillberg is very

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appreciative of any other questions